Ranger Up tackles Civil Discourse in Veterans Day video

 
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Ranger Up tackles Civil Discourse in Veterans Day video

Love this:

Now I should note up front that I am friends with Nick Palmisciano here (and we are both die-hard fans of a certain 8-1 football team that wins Super Bowls like most people win coin flips) and I know Tim, so I'm obviously somewhat prejudiced.  Nonetheless, a good article from Task and Purpose talked about the video:

"This is the most contentious political climate of my lifetime," Nick Palmisciano, the CEO and Founder of Ranger Up, and a former Army infantry officer said of the decision to create the video, titled Lead the Way.

"And while there is nothing wrong with passionate differences in desired policy, we've got powerful people calling on social media and traditional media for Civil War, the dissolution of many constitutional rights, and generally [vilifying] people who share differing opinions. I don't think that's who we are as Americans, and I don't think that's really who we want to be either. The idea of this campaign is to remind veterans of different political persuasions that we all wore the same uniform, did the same jobs, and loved each other unequivocally."

The video was produced by Palmisciano and Tim Kennedy, a former UFC fighter and Army Green Beret, and is part of an effort by Ranger Up to encourage veterans to take a leadership role in creating a more civil discourse leading up to this year's Veterans Day.

"We're supposed to be tough men and women who have gone through a lot of things. We were taught to control emotion and use training and logic to solve problems in the worst situations," Kennedy said in a recent statement. "There is nothing scary about being a decent human being and having a conversation, so why do we allow ourselves to degrade others. I'm personally a passionate supporter of the 2nd Amendment, and yet I've sat down with people who don't understand or appreciate gun rights and had really pleasant conversations. I've taken flak for it, but it was the right thing to do. I look forward to taking flak for this is well."

It doesn't matter what post I put up here, on every Thursday I am guaranteed when the Online Update goes out with a link to it that I am going to get tons of comments that I have to filter through.  And I only post about 50% of them, because regardless of the topic the comments are going to be people either bashing the President or bashing the other side of the aisle.  Even on articles that have nothing to do with politics.  And then someone else will chime in saying how they've been a member for 20+ years and they are not renewing because there are too many righties/lefties in the Legion and that side is evil and wrong.

And it makes me sad.  When I post something about our military working dogs serving on the raid to take down Baghdadi I shouldn't have to wade through 8 tons of comments bashing heel spur deferments or Nancy Pelosi.  Ranger Up understands that this is a dengerous time for all of us, and I love this video.  I'm sure some will dislike it for that very reason, but I don't understand why we can't all just agree to disagree.  I can't even post things tangentially related to politics on my own Facebook page without people complaining.  When did this happen to us?

Sort of reminds me of something that happened in Afghanistan with a friend of mine.  He was in a guard tower with me one day and went all in on Global Warming discussions.  I didn't know enough to cogently argue with him, so I did what I thought I should do, ordered a bunch of books off Amazon and read both sides.  The next time we were in a tower together I brought it up and told him I was ready to discuss it.  He just started laughing at me and said "I was just messing with you, I don't actually care either way, I just wanted to see how fired up I could get you."

Now he's a close friend and even he liked throwing rhetorical grenades into the room.  But at the end of the day, he and I are still brothers, as everyone who served was my brother or sister.  It's time we all try to remember that.

 

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While this video certainly addresses the issue, let's look at the real facts. We'll call it Civics 101. For a Democracy to work, two things have to be understood and present, one is a basic understanding of government and how it works and secondly that we vote logically and with our interests. It's obvious a certainly inordinate number of veterans neither know the way government operates nor do they vote for their own interests. This applies to those who continue to support the current president that has on numerous occasions violated the Emoluments Clause of the Constitution and now with only initial testimony by no less then 8 government officials including two decorated former and current military members that the President committed Bribery, a clear and pointed crime listed under Impeachment in Article II. Every military member as well as almost every other federal employee swears an oath not to any man or political or government official, either elected or appointed. We all swear an oath to the Constitution, "to defend and support against foreign and domestic enemies". Our own allegiance to those officers appointed above us is that they too support and defend the Constitution and carry their Lawful Orders. I served 24 years during the Cold War fighting Soviet Communism which included the KGB. Today, our President is best friends with a former KGB Colonel named Putin for whom trump does his bidding by withholding military aid to Ukraine, turning a blind eye to their aggression in Syria and questioning the value of NATO, an alliance over 70 years old designed to block Russian expansion. Trump does this because of his avarice for greater financial gain at the expense of our Nation. Trump IS that domestic enemy as defined by our oath and should be removed. Unfortunately he has Russophiles in the GOP controlled US Senate that 5 years ago considered Russia an adversary but due to a severe lack of backbone will not stand up and do their Constitutional duties. They are failing to do their duties in not protecting the American people.

The second part here is that any veteran that supports trump is disrespecting their service and their fellow Vets. Please tell me how you support a president who disrespected Senator and former Captain John McCain, a decorated war hero or disrespected Gold Star families or never served by getting 5 deferments for "bone spurs' or illegally misappropriated DOD funds stipulated by Congress (please read Article I) to build a wall congress intentionally refused to fund. Or maybe the tone of his administration to deport non-citizen Veterans that served this nation with honor or integrity. How do justify your support of a man who lied about donating funds ti a veteran's group and it never happened or whose administration is now civilianizing the VA and thus the service has actually gotten much worse.

If you still support trump after all I have listed then you're uneducated or a white racist, voting your hate and not what's best for your country and hating so bad that you put that before Country and your fellow Vets.

While this video certainly addresses the issue, let's look at the real facts. We'll call it Civics 101. For a Democracy to work, two things have to be understood and present, one is a basic understanding of government and how it works and secondly that we vote logically and with our interests. It's obvious a certainly inordinate number of veterans neither know the way government operates nor do they vote for their own interests. This applies to those who continue to support the current president that has on numerous occasions violated the Emoluments Clause of the Constitution and now with only initial testimony by no less then 8 government officials including two decorated former and current military members that the President committed Bribery, a clear and pointed crime listed under Impeachment in Article II. Every military member as well as almost every other federal employee swears an oath not to any man or political or government official, either elected or appointed. We all swear an oath to the Constitution, "to defend and support against foreign and domestic enemies". Our own allegiance to those officers appointed above us is that they too support and defend the Constitution and carry their Lawful Orders. I served 24 years during the Cold War fighting Soviet Communism which included the KGB. Today, our President is best friends with a former KGB Colonel named Putin for whom trump does his bidding by withholding military aid to Ukraine, turning a blind eye to their aggression in Syria and questioning the value of NATO, an alliance over 70 years old designed to block Russian expansion. Trump does this because of his avarice for greater financial gain at the expense of our Nation. Trump IS that domestic enemy as defined by our oath and should be removed. Unfortunately he has Russophiles in the GOP controlled US Senate that 5 years ago considered Russia an adversary but due to a severe lack of backbone will not stand up and do their Constitutional duties. They are failing to do their duties in not protecting the American people.

The second part here is that any veteran that supports trump is disrespecting their service and their fellow Vets. Please tell me how you support a president who disrespected Senator and former Captain John McCain, a decorated war hero or disrespected Gold Star families or never served by getting 5 deferments for "bone spurs' or illegally misappropriated DOD funds stipulated by Congress (please read Article I) to build a wall congress intentionally refused to fund. Or maybe the tone of his administration to deport non-citizen Veterans that served this nation with honor or integrity. How do justify your support of a man who lied about donating funds ti a veteran's group and it never happened or whose administration is now civilianizing the VA and thus the service has actually gotten much worse.

If you still support trump after all I have listed then you're uneducated or a white racist, voting your hate and not what's best for your country and hating so bad that you put that before Country and your fellow Vets.

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