Marine Veteran detained in Virginia on mental evaluation hold

 
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Marine Veteran detained in Virginia on mental evaluation hold

This is another of those posts I had hoped to avoid since it will bring on all manner of discussion that could potentially be a bit volatile, but so it goes.  Since everyone is clammoring for it, here is the AP article:

A former Marine involuntarily detained for psychiatric evaluation for posting strident anti-government messages on Facebook has received an outpouring of support from people who say authorities are trampling on his First Amendment rights.

Brandon J. Raub, 26, has been in custody since FBI, Secret Service agents and police in Virginia's Chesterfield County questioned him Thursday evening about what they said were ominous posts talking about a coming revolution. In one message earlier this month according to authorities, Raub wrote: "Sharpen my axe; I'm here to sever heads."

Now naturally there are folks who are defending Brandon, and saying this is simply an arrest based on his words.  In fact, the article quotes an Rutherford Institute attorney saying:

"For government officials to not only arrest Brandon Raub for doing nothing more than exercising his First Amendment rights but to actually force him to undergo psychological evaluations and detain him against his will goes against every constitutional principle this country was founded upon," Whitehead said.

An FBI Spokeswoman in Richmond countered by stating:

"We received quite a few complaints about what were perceived as threatening posts," she said. "Given the circumstances with the things that have gone on in the country with some of these mass shootings, it would be horrible for law enforcement not to pay attention to complaints."

And so again I find myself in the middle.  Clearly I don't like arrests based on just something someone said, but in the wake of Aurora, Texas AM, the FRC, must law enforcement wait until something happens, or is the onus on them to at the least investigate the situation first? 

According to Business Insider,

The  Virginia statute states that a magistrate "shall issue, upon  the sworn petition of any responsible person, treating physician, or upon his  own motion, an emergency custody order when he has probable cause to believe  that any person (i) has a mental illness and that there exists a substantial likelihood that, as a result of mental  illness, the person will, in the near future, (a) cause serious physical harm to  himself or others as evidenced by recent behavior causing, attempting, or  threatening harm and other relevant information, if any, or (b) suffer  serious harm due to his lack of capacity to protect himself from harm or to  provide for his basic human needs, (ii) is in need of hospitalization or  treatment, and (iii) is unwilling to volunteer or incapable of volunteering for  hospitalization or treatment."

According to the police themselves:

Chesterfield Police assisted federal authorities in their efforts to interview Brandon J. Raub on Thursday, Aug. 16. After speaking to Raub, officers believed him to be in need of further evaluation.

Chesterfield officers at the scene contacted Chesterfield Mental Health Crisis Intervention. Crisis workers recommended that police take Raub into custody and bring him in for evaluation.

Chesterfield police took Raub into custody for evaluation in accordance with Virginia State Code § 37.2-808 Emergency custody.

So what do you think?  Was this something politically related where Law Enforcement objected to his theories about 9/11 etc, or is this a case of taking someone into custody for a mental evaluation before they become a threat to themselves or others?

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Big Brother is Watching, and the Thought Police are coming.

What I find interesting is when I do a Google or Yahoo News search for "Brandon Raub", I only find articles from local or non-mainstream media. Seems this story isn't big enough for the big names in news.

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