Are US Tax Dollars being spent to espouse the belief that “the U.S. military and its veterans constitute an imperialistic, oppressive force”?

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Punchbowl "The solemn pride that must be yours, to have laid so costly a sacrifice upon the altar of Freedom" - quotation from Letter to Mrs. Bixby incribed on the Memorial. Getting a lot of email on this, so want to address this one here, and try to get to what was done, and what can be done (if anything) to see if we can stop it from happening again. This post is almost entirely derivative of one written by Scott Johnson of “Power Line” who I had the pleasure of talking to this morning. I will hit most of the highlights, but you should read his piece first to get some background. If you aren’t already aware of what the “National Endowment of the Humanities (NEH)” is, starting with their own definition is perhaps best:
Because democracy demands wisdom, the National Endowment for the Humanities serves and strengthens our Republic by promoting excellence in the humanities and conveying the lessons of history to all Americans. The Endowment accomplishes this mission by providing grants for high-quality humanities projects in four funding areas: preserving and providing access to cultural resources, education, research, and public programs. NEH grants typically go to cultural institutions, such as museums, archives, libraries, colleges, universities, public television, and radio stations, and to individual scholars. The grants: • strengthen teaching and learning in the humanities in schools and colleges across the nation • facilitate research and original scholarship • provide opportunities for lifelong learning • preserve and provide access to cultural and educational resources • strengthen the institutional base of the humanities
Seems rational enough I suppose, but anytime you spend taxpayers’ money on such endeavors it is perhaps a good idea to keep an eye on the specifics. And it is one such seminar that is the genesis of the current movement to defund them that has people emailing me. From Powerline:
In July 2010 the NEH sponsored a workshop for college professors at the East-West Center, University of Hawaii. The title of the conference was "History and Commemoration: The Legacies of the Pacific War." As one of the 25 American scholars chosen to attend the workshop, Professor Penelope Blake anticipated an opportunity to visit hallowed sites such as Pearl Harbor, the Arizona Memorial and the Punchbowl Cemetery and engage with scholars who share her interest in studying this often neglected part of World War II history.
Upon returning from this seminar (she apparently waited a while before writing her letter) Professor Blake contacted her Congressman, Donald Manzullo of Illinois, with some rather startling observations about the conference.
As one of twenty-five American scholars chosen to participate in the recent National Endowment for the Humanities Summer Workshop, "History and Commemoration: Legacies of the Pacific War in WWII," at the University of Hawaii, East-West Center, I am writing to ask you to vote against approval of 2011 funding for future workshops until the NEH can account for the violation of its stated objective to foster "a mutual respect for the diverse beliefs and values of all persons and groups" (NEH Budget Request, 2011). In my thirty years as a professor in upper education, I have never witnessed nor participated in a more extremist, agenda-driven, revisionist conference, nearly devoid of rhetorical balance and historical context for the arguments presented. In both the required preparatory readings for the conference, as well as the scholarly presentations, I found the overriding messages to include the following….
Now, Powerline has the entire text of her letter, so you can go read it there, but I wanted to highlight some of the specific quotes that she uses to bolster her argument that something went horrifically awry during this event. For instance:
One presenter specifically wrote about turning down a job offer when he realized that his office would overlook a fleet of U.S. Naval warships, "the symbol of American power and the symbol of our [Hawaiians'] dispossession...I decided they could not pay me enough"… The Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor should be seen from the perspective of Japan being a victim of western oppression (one speaker likened the attack to 9-11, saying that the U.S. could be seen as "both victim and aggressor" in both attacks); that American "imperial expansion" forced Japan's hand: "For the Japanese, it was a war to defend their unique culture against Western Imperialism." Those misguided members of the WWII generation on islands like Guam and Saipan who feel gratitude to the Americans for saving them from the Japanese are blinded by propaganda supporting "the image of a compassionate America" or by their own advanced age. One author/presenter questioned whether the Americans had saved anyone from anything (Camacho 177, 209), arguing that the Americans could be seen as easily and justifiably as "conquerors and invaders" (199).
Dr. Blake included in her letter the reason she felt so passionately about the subject:
As a daughter of two WWII veterans and the niece of a man who gave his life to help defend his country in WWII, I simply will not stand by and allow their history to be usurped and corrupted by a revisionist and iconoclastic political agenda within academe.
Part of the required reading for this conference was a book entitled: Perilous Memories: The Asia-Pacific War(s) One of the reviews on Amazon included this description:
Perilous Memories come from a set of papers delivered by world-renowned anthropologists, cultural critics, historians, literary scholars, and activists -- who illustrate how both the hegemonic and marginalized memories have grown out of the interconnected phenomenon of nationalism, imperialism, colonialism, racism, and sexism. Much like [another work] this volume "reads" a vast archive of photographs, animation, songs, and films to military occupations and attacks, minorities in wartime, "comfort women," commemorative events, and postwar activism in pursuing redress and reparations. Perilous Memories is iconic and essential reading vis-à-vis war memory intervention and informs my work on many levels.
Well, isn’t that special. I’ll put that book on my wish-list at Amazon right under Judy Garland: Beyond the Rainbow, and Season 1 of Glee. (Talk about torture….I’ll take the waterboarding.) Anyway, seems like we go through this fight over historical revisionism every 10 or so years, and we were a bit overdue. No doubt you will recall the kerfuffle over the Enola Gay exhibit at the Smithsonian a few years back. For those that don’t remember…. [Warner Wolf Voice] Let’s go to Wikipedia!:
Enola Gay became the center of a controversy at the Smithsonian Institution, when the museum put its fuselage on public display on 28 June 1995, as part of an exhibit commemorating the 50th anniversary of the atomic bombing of Hiroshima. The exhibit, The Crossroads: The End of World War II, the Atomic Bomb and the Cold War, was drafted by the Smithsonian's National Air and Space Museum staff, and arranged around the restored Enola Gay. Critics of the exhibit, especially those of the American Legion and the Air Force Association, charged that the exhibit focused too much attention on the Japanese casualties inflicted by the nuclear bomb, rather than on the motivations for the bombing or the discussion of the bomb's role in ending the World War II conflict with Japan. The exhibit brought to national attention many long-standing academic and political issues related to retrospective views of the bombings. As a result, after various failed attempts to revise the exhibit in order to meet the satisfaction of competing interest groups, the exhibit was canceled on 30 January 1995, although the fuselage did go on display.
I went up into the Archives this morning and found an illustrative letter from the-National Commander Detweiler (who is now a consultant to the National WWII Museum in New Orleans) to then-President Clinton:
After months of research and direct negotiations with officials of the National Air and Space Museum, The American Legion has reluctantly concluded that further efforts to correct the politically charged Enola Gay exhibit are futile. On behalf of all World War II veterans, I am asking your help to see this tragic episode in the life of the nations’ most revered museum brought to a speedy conclusion. National Air and Space Museum officials, despite an accord reached with our representatives in September 1994, and in defiance of their Smithsonian Institution superiors, have restored to the exhibit highly debatable information which calls into question the morality and motives of President Truman’s decision to end World War II quickly and decisively by using the atomic bomb. The hundreds of thousands of American boys whose lives were thus spared and who lived to celebrate the 50th anniversary of their historic achievement are, by this exhibit, now to be told their lives were purchased at the price of treachery and revenge. This is an affront to all Americans.
One of my favorite books of the last 10 or so years is Duty: A Father, His Son, and the Man Who Won the War, by Bob Greene. It essentially discusses Paul Tibbets, the man who dropped the bombs from the Enola Gay. As one commenter at Amazon stated:
There is a conversation in the book between General Tibbets and Shoji Tabuchi. Mr. Tabuchi was carried by his Mother on her back, while she pushed his Brother in a carriage away from their home that was near Hiroshima after the bombing. Mr. Tabuchi's Father said this about the Bombing, "had the war continued all would have died, the end of the war spared the lives of men women and children all over Japan".
I had hoped to be able to balance my discussion of this issue with a response from the NEH. Alas, for some reason email between myself and Scott at Powerline isn’t working well. In order to get this post up though, I’ve decided to spread this issue over a few posts. Either later today, or tomorrow hopefully I can bring up the responses from the NEH. Also, I will look at what this means long term: Are there measures in place that proscribe using tax dollars for historical revisionism? Is historical revisionism accurate for what the conferees were suggesting? What documentation exists that either prove or rebut these assertions? If you want to know, come back to the Burn Pit over the next couple of days as we seek to get some answers to our questions.
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I am so ashamed. What happened to you to be a part of this travesty.

One cannot, in so short a space, write a history of WWII, nor adequately assess the motives and behavior of alll those who fought in that war. My oldest brother was a victim of that war (Army Aif Force). But the question that is being asked is whether tax dollars should subsidize conferences that are held for the reason of attempting to rationalize pre-assumed personal beliefs that appear to deny historical records - sort of like holding a conference at taxpayer expense to show that Nazi Germany did not exterminate millions of Jews, or, if they did, that it was the fault of the Jews. It seems unlikely, though that those approving funding for NEH (or for almost ANY public program) ever knew how the money would actually be used nor would anyone actually have checked to see how those funds were used. Not sure there even is such a check and balance system in place for such funding. But, an organization that accepts funding under the premises stated in the article, MUST do an evaluation of any requests for such conferences to ensure that those concferences do not violate the by-laws of that organization. If that was done in this case and the NEH still approved the use of those funds, they should have to answer for it and further funding to the NEH should be done only under much closer scrutiny. Misuse of taxpayer funds by those receiving those funds is not unusual. There should be stricter oversight on how such funds are used and an evaluation of the rationalization for the use of those funds should be known and approved prior to being given. Laxness in the regiulations and their enforcement is the real villian here. One cannot, nor should not, attempt thought control. There will always be people who, for a variety of reasons, will try to twist history. Taxpayers should not be paying for it, however.

U S tax dollars are spent on the DoD to be an imperialistic, oppressive force over the world. Beware the military/industrial complex(from Ike). Remember the native populations of North and South America,the Philipines, S.E. Asia, etc. This is the same DoD which could not prevent 9/11. The US spends more on the military than the total expenditures of the rest of the world. We are bankrupt as a country and cutting back on military spending would allow the country to escape the debt trap. When will Congress do what is right thing and cut the military spending to escape the delusion of dominating the world? When will our government do a comprehensive audit of the DoD and the Federal Reserve Bank. Our country is addicted to a war economy.
Also, our country does not support its military veterans.

Before some of you get your shorts in a knot, I am a veteran of Korea and SE Asia.

Take Care, John

To Ron Miller:
I do not believe that I, or most of the rest, questioned the constitutional rights of these folks to believe as they wish. The question is whether tax dollars should be used to establish a forum for them to do so.
If teachers of your children or grandchildren were using their positions to spread ideologies contrary to the excepted norm, I am sure you would step in to, at the very least, make sure that they heard both sides and were not merely exposed to opinions with questionable basis in fact. Teachers have a moral obligation to state, along with their interpretation, what are the more established beliefs on a given subject. This gives the student the option to form their own opinion.

CHAD SAID, "Tell me, what is the difference between Japan attacking Pearl Harbor and us dropping the atomic bombs on them? It’s all death and destruction to me. Don’t get me wrong… I am a proud veteran and American. I also happen to have a degree in Social and Cultural Anthropology. I see both sides of this arguement. I stand behind any memorial to our troops, but I won’t stand for patriotism that comes at the cost of reality. America isn’t always the “White Knight,” the good guy…. and that’s ok."

Well, to keep it as simple as possible Chad. Japan STARTED a war with their attack. They attacked a foreign power and people for purposes of expanding their empire; hoping we would leave them alone after that instead of funneling supplies to the Chinese and other Asian Countries as we had been doing to help their efforts to defend from the Japanese. The use of the Atomic Bomb was an attack that ENDED a war. It caused the Japanese to give up, and stop attacking its neighbors and countries accross the globe.

There are a lot of other things that were going on, but when you reduce those two attacks to their simplest, this is what the difference is. If you still can't understand the difference Chad, then I would suggest you sue whatever paper factory handed you your diploma, because you were never taught simple reasoning skills.

If anyone out there still can't understand the differences, go read "The Rape of Nanking," then read ANY historical books about how we treated the Japanese after WWII. The differences are awesome.

Alfred, maybe it is time to let some of that old hate and anger go... maybe our children should learn about the evils of war and the virtues of diplomacy.

American History, U. S.History and World Histry must become required courses in all our Public Schools. The generations after World 11 have little knowledge of why this country is still free and what was required of the military and many civilians to keep it that way. Also, those Presenters at the National Endowment for the Humanities should also read the history books. We all know they all have their right to say and write what the believe in, but they should not be supported by the United States goverment Granted, the Military is not and has not in the past been perfect, but remember, NO one, nor any other organazition is perfect.

Guamanians who survived WWII generation are still grateful to and honor the U.S. forces who liberated them from the brutal 30-month Japanese occupation -- and so are the people of Saipan, who were ruled by Japan since their island was part of the League of Nations mandate after World War One. But since the 1970s, young Guamanians have been brainwashed by liberal radicals (like Camacho) who assert that Truman's grant of U.S. citizenship to Guamanians in 1950 did not erase Japan's obligation to pay the islanders some kind of "reparations" after the war. Still, this new breed of radicals (whose only knowledge of WWII is based on the memories of parents and grandparents) carry U.S. passports and while large numbers live (and vote) in all 50 states, none has ever renounced their citizenship or refused to accept federal education, protections, employment, justice, service in the U.S. military or welfare benefits that the "colonial" power provides to Guam through their fellow American taxpayers. American forces were more than “conquerors and invaders” -- they were liberators who will always be revered by 99% of Guam's populace and 100% of their (now) American cousins on Saipan and the rest of the Mariana Islands.

To Chad
Your right of free speech only exists because brave men and women who had to do unspeakable things that we remember at odd times of the day to protect your right to be a pompus ass. You haven't done anything to earn that right and never will.

Our tax dollars, needed for services that are required for the health and well being of the LEGAL citizens, should never be used to fund such teachings. Back a ways there was a post by Chad. I suspect Chad never stood a post and has no idea why the US, with all our faults, is still THE place people want to migrate too.
Notice there is no OUTigration quotas.
Nor should our tax dollars fund one parties fund raising efforts. Our sitting president, be he Democrat or Republican or a viable other party should not travel on our dime to support his or her political party.

If you don't like it here, I am sure we can raise some cash for a ONE-WAY ticket elsewhere; but they never go, they just beat their chest and complain about what real Americans have built for them.

Knowing something about the Japanese and oriental culture during WWII, who ever said that Japan was on the verge of surrender prior to the bombing of Hiroshami and Nagasaki is "off the wall". There were thousands of Japanese soldiers and pilots that committed suicide (hari kari) and also killed American soldiers in the process. They would rather kill an American with their own death than to "lose face" because this was what they were taught. It took a strong act on the part of the US to tip the scales for their surrender within the boundaries of their own country.

It sort of reminds you of what is happening today. Doesn't it? There were more Americans who died on 9/11 than at Pearl Harbor by suicide of terrorists of a right-wing Moslem religion because there is 32 virgins waiting for them. We have similar incidents happening today as in WWII around the world and yet we continue to allow these aliens in our backyard. Does this scare me, you bet it does. Is it going to change under the present administration, I doubt it.

The same rhetoric surfaces over and over again seeming to say, “look I have reached high into areas of academe that show me to be more enlightened to tell the story”, so this new quest burns within to the point it must be told to the world what “I” know others have failed to understand. These “enlightened ones” are completely unaware or closed to the documented atrocities that the Japanese committed against humanity in all the death tortures in China and the Philippines. A close friend of mine, an elderly Pilipino woman, and a young girl at the time was an eye witness in the Japanese occupied Philippines and saw Japanese soldiers playing catch with babies by throwing them to each other and catching them on the end of their rifle’s bayonets. A lot of hate developed in these wars for a reason and you cannot discount their existence and savagery by speculating on one event of the war, the Atomic bombing. Pick and choose historians selecting what fits an agenda or belief.

Not only "NO", but "Hell NO"!!!!!

Promote it, knowing that what they are producing is another form of hate? Definitely not. Any discussion on history MUST begin the times and conditions that the events occured looking at it from all angles. No one side OR another, both sides together and balanced and as a whole. That way the student can look at what happened and, if so desired, make informed decisions of possible courses of action should similar events occur.

We must learn from the past in order to put off future mistakes. Mistakes will occur when people forget the reasons why. We demonized the Japenese. The Japanese demonized us. We Marines got extra attention from Tokyo, and we reciprocated the attention, tenfold. Hate builds on hate which builds on hate. Result: a war that killed tens of millions of people worldwide. We're discussing two bombing that occured at the end of the bloodshed. To become relevant, ALL the bombings up to that point have to be scrutinized as to destructive results before bringing up the two atomic bombs. Dresden killed more people than either blast. The fire bombing of Tokyo killed even more.

Conventional bombs were not ending the war, they were too piecemeal. Two bombs, while killing thousands, brought to a close the most horrific world wide disaster in this planets known history.

Bottom line: Shut the money off to these revisionists, not just becasue they pump out hate, they contaminate the entire historical discussion that should occur between professional scholars and statesmen who could make descisions that can lead us into another debacle, the next we may not survive.

If they'd like to have any conferences, on any topic, the parasites who suck the taxpayer dollars that fund their hijinks through the costly, superfluous NEH bureaucracy should do what the rest of us poor slobs have to do: pony up for their own conference. And if they have their Let's Blame Dead White Men For All The Evil In The World Ever little pow-wow, I hope that tea will be served.

It is high time we put a stop to the revisionist movement. These egg-heads, under the misguided mantra of political correctness, fail in the basic premise of understanding, which can be summed up in the statement: "Before you abuse, criticize and accuse, walk a mile in my shoes". Not having been at war, serving or waiting for a loved one to hopefully return, they are issuing their revisions from an ivory (or ivy) tower. The war experience, good, bad, ugly, includes any and all the ads, handbills, posters, movies, gas and sugar ration stamps, etc. Those are all a part of it, but these revisionists would dismiss as propaganda anything that would record the attitudes and emotions of the day. Defund the revisionists, and teach history in it's full flavor, let the student decide for themselves what to take from the experience.

More "culture wars" on behalf of the American Legion, eh? Considering that conservatives have been trying to cut the NEA's budget since Reagan I'm not convinced by this article. If only the American Legion were actually bipartisan maybe more vets wouldn't consider it a haven for right-wing nutcases.

Hell no, not a cent for these whackos.

Chad- Don't ever accuse anyone who served in the National Guard or the Reserves as "not really serving"! As to the rest of your claptrap, ho hum!

I'll try to keep it civil and stay on topic too. There are way to many blood sucking organizations like this that our taxes pay for. I'm going to keep reminding my government here in Texas that I want it stopped. No more funding. The USA has been broke for years. This is one of the reasons why. I'm not sure if I can control my temper if I have to try to explain to some more of these progressive liberal idiots, that call themselves intelligent, what the Constitution says, or what happens in any branch of the US military at any time since 1775. If they just studied the koran and what mohamed was, or took a vacation to beirut or some other beautiful place, they might find out how much they love all of us infidels. If none of this makes sense it's because people like this really piss me off.
Thank You Dr Blake !

NO, Why should we fund idiots who for some reason do not know that if we did not fight there the fight would be here in their land

We must stop spending taxpayers money for this and others like it that are opposed to our best interest!

This country is in for a very rude awakening in the near future. I feel as a vet there is not true patriotism from the ones who has not served a day in their lives. I see america's downfall will be harsh and painfull.

I was a kid about 10 years old in about 1937 when I saw something that I will NEVER forget. It was the picture of a victorious
Jap army unit moving through a Chinese throng looting and killing. But seeing a little baby impaled by a bayonet on a rifle was
mind boggling. Of course, this help set the attitude of Americans against Japan with all the atrocities they inflicted on the
helpless Chinese. While the Imperial Warlords may have had primary blame in retrospect, most of us assumed that the people
as a whole supported the army and their acts. This type of thing helped steel our resolve to win. Since Japan was one huge
tinder box, the devastation of incendiary bombs would likely have killed millions by burning and eventual starvation. Not a
pleasant idea, but war is hell. If saved just one GI life rather than tens of thousands loss in an invasion, worth it. Some of
this ultruistic crap is sickening. How about all the Gold Stars in windows in my home town? NAZI Germany and Stalin's
Russia tried revising history but I never believed it would happen here...but it is, sometimes under the banner of spin. As long
as we have a nutty academia and jerks like NEH with anti-American agenda, the military must keep protecting their freedom
to spew the garbage. Too bad they don't hate the USA enough to leave it.

Don't want to influence anybody, but check out the following: GOOGLE: Tonkin Gulf declassified; Operation Northwoods; Smedley Butler Alex Jones predicts 911; Aaron Russo and Nick Rockefeller; Dick Cheney and Cathy O'Brien

Pray, pray for the USA!

I tried to post URL's supporting my statement but you consider such efforts as SPAM....shame on you. A good debate should allow for supporting documentation.

First of all, a person's sexual preference has no place in a combat unit. I won't "ask" you, and I don't want you to "tell" me, just get out of my face and do your job! The marketplace of ideas is usually tolerated in societies that value freedom of speech and expression. Personally, I don't care what the "other" people outside of the U. S. think about us or care what they say, they obviously don't care about our opinions, and most of those societies would not allow a forum like this to exist. Not listening to the majority of Americans is not only followed but encouraged in the current Administration. They are an administration of bullies treating "We the People" like we don't exist and governing like they are inside a lightbulb. If that isn't a "wrong" to "right", I don't know what is.
How about this:
Democrat hires line of hookers, is discovered and resigns
Democrat Senator from CA funnels money to her husbands businesses, swept under the carpet
Same Senator funnels 25 million from the so-called Stimulus to her husband's companies again, again swept under the carpet
Democrat in Nevada sells land bought by third party private individual and makes a cool 1.2 million, swept under the carpet
Two senior Democrats get sweetheart mortgage deals from Fannie Mae, swept under the carpet
Two Democrats investigated for ethics violations, one runs for office while under investigation
Democrat caught with 90,000 dollars in cash in a freezer in his home, investigated for ethics violations
Democrat Speaker of the House funnels money from the so-called Stimulus to her husbands businesses, swept under the carpet
Democrat had gay lover that runs a prostitution ring out of his apartment for two years! He claims he knew nothing, no investigation
Senior Democrat has sexual contact with congressional Pages, ingnored by Democrat controlled Congress
Democrat convicted of selling a Senatorial seat, resigns

Shall I go on? Personal attacks on individuals is one thing, but abouse of office is another, and I like girls! Cheers!

Does anyone really pay attention to the NEH? ... except those in Congress who think they deserve a handout?

I think not.


Veteran of three wars. If we are imperialistic, why did we not occupy the defeated countries?

Veteran of three wars! If we are imperialistic why did we not occupy the defeated countries?

Why can't conservatives make the leap from placing the same faith they have in financial market values into the marketplace of idea?: Those ideas that aren't true will be weeded out without any heavy-handed maneuvers like cutting NEH funding from above. But the central theme here, whether tax dollars should fund this and possibly be denied, smacks of censorship- just as un-American as the NEH is accused of being.
Having said that, of course our military isn't that way. What we in the West have so often forgot is that the Japanese well remembered the Russian animosity at having lost the Russo-Japanese Way of 1903. This was still fresh in the Japanese mind by 1945. It wasn't so much the American atomic bombs being dropped, but the imminent Russian invasion from the west in the spring of '45 that prompted the Japanese to surrender to the Americans, rather than to the Russians: the Japanese knew we'd give them better surrender terms.
This is why cutting NEH funding is unnecessary.

Sgt J, USMC what proof do you want?

When did it become Democrats are Liberals? If you look at history, it was a Democrat that escalated our involvement in Vietnam, and Republicans were the Liberals, at that time Rich kid College students that didn’t want to go to Vietnam, who’s Fathers fought in WWII, and were BIG Corporate Owners and could buy their Kid Freedom from the Draft.

We all have to agree, and this is what I have read in this thread, that:
1) the Military is sworn to uphold the Constitution of the United States.
2) EVERYONE has the right to freedom of speech, we as a Nation also extend that to those visiting this Nation.
3) The Military is not a government of Imperialist, nor a vesicle of Oppression.

If we can agree on these facts, maybe we can move forward with the question of funding the NEH. I too agree with Professor Blake to a point, if the presentation did not show facts to support the accusation, then it is the obligation of the NEH to correct the infraction. If removing tax money is the only way to change this then so be it. But to no longer fund the NEH because of this one incident, look at the other side of that coin, if by doing so we as a Nation loose a means for the ability of preserving, and presenting History, to do so is the Travesty. Before we cut off the appendage, let’s see if we can heal the wound first. If the NEH continues to allow things of this nature to continue, then it might be in the best interest of the taxpayers to no longer fund it.

Look people, America has always defended freedom, freedom from tyranny, The USA was founded by people fleeing from tyranny. Today America stands as a testament to freedom. We may not have equality in the material realm, but we do have equality in 5 God given freedoms defined in the constitution through the Bill of rights.

However, the Bill of rights does not require the government to redistribute wealth that other free men/women worked for so that others who did not work for the wealth could channel their perspectives upon the individuals who did work for the wealth.

Is this forced re-education? You want forced re-eduction try a POW camp circa Vietnam, Korea, WWII, or WWI. Or try the Communist countries, they will give you all of the forced re-education you want. Personally I would prefer to spend my money on my own interests.

Conferences are meant to generate discussion and this one sure did. My 20 years in the service was spent to protect people's right to say things that I disagree with. If the Endowment for the Arts only funds sessions where everybody agrees and says nice things why have a conference. Being that I thought that I was the only Liberal (I don't know what a progressive is) retired from the military I sure was happy to read the comments. We veterans wear big boy and girl pants and can be treated as such.

Not many Americans know what duty is or care to learn. Instead, of electing the most qualified person for the position. But a lot of people vote their party line. They do not want to research the issues to make an informed decision if they even vote at all. I am a person who will continue to to do my duty to these United States of America and support her in any way I can. That goes for the American Legion. Just as I did for 26 years of service. This country is not about one person or one belief. This country needs to remember what our forefathers set as the Constitution. The words start out we the people not me the person.

No, we should not fund those "scholars" who bring into disrepute and dishonor those people who have served. Sometimes the military is a tool of misguided civilian leaders, but nothing should dishonor those who have served at home and abroad, giving up comforts, time, family, health, and all too often their lives. Those who criticize ignorantly are misusing the very freedoms bought at a great price. Those who bring dishonor on themselves are the very critics, the political leaders, and those service members who by their individual conduct are dishonorable. "Service" has become a dirty word in our recent history and the only service encouraged is self-service, even by many of our "public servants." The service that veterans have given is of the highest kind and should not be denigrated. Veterans of the American Revolution struggled through long years of war and for the most part remain unremembered. Being prepared militarily was a civic duty from the first days of our country. World War I vets returned home from a brutal war that now has been forgotten as have they. Our citizens have stepped forward (or were drafted) and have supported and now support the idea and ideal that is the United States. Just because the perfect or ideal America, or the world for that matter has not been achieved does not mean that we shouldn't fight for it, protect it, or strive to achieve it. For some "scholars" to dismiss veterans and military service only shows how blind and shallow they are.

Thank you all for demanding an end to unnecessary spending. NEH and the like. SK3 storekeeper 1969


Bill- I will have all that information and more shortly. Most of the documents are not available online, so I am talking to the NEH now to get them.

I am a WWII vet and i do not want my tax money spent to disgrace our Armed Forces. J.W. Carpenter

Seriously, why does the Legion feel the need to insert itself in EVERY issue? Now you want to take on the NEH for funding an academic conference about the war in the Pacific? You're making us look like a bunch of crazies. How about we get back to the fundamentals of lobbying for veterans' benefits?

Not that your comment makes sense on any significant level (including spelling) but.....Since the US Military answers to the civilian gov't, and since that gov't is elected by popular vote, wouldn't it be the President and/or the people of the US who are "Imperialistic" and not the military which simply goes where it is sent?

Yes, U.S. Military is Imperialistic Force in World. The Roman Empire wasn't as hugh.

john clinton has a very narrow view of historical events... I bet he thinks Muslims attacked on 9/11 because they "hate our way of life." lol

Did none of you read the post itself? I specifically cited comments from folks at the conference, but no one has discussed those comments, but rather my headline.

Further, the underlying post at Powerline has even more, about how the legacy of US troops is rape and torture.

I compiled the navigational and bombing charts
for the A-bomb missions on Nagasaki and Hiroshema.
The bombing was terrible, but it stopped a long, drawn-out
war that would have taken the lives of men and women in
the world. I am 90 years old as of July 7, 2010 and
remember the bombing. My 24-hour guarded living quarters
was adjacent to Gen. Curtis LaMay's quarters in a compound
in Khargpur, India. I was with the 949th Engineers attached
to the 20th Bomber Command.
In the few remaining years (?) of my life, I want this horrible
moment to be remembered as a necessary event that saved
lives and healed the hateful relationship that existed before
the event.

As a vet, a historian, and a college professor, I support the First Amendment and taxes are the price we pay for living in a civilized society. Sometimes we support how are taxes are spent and other time we reject how our taxes are spent.

I had two brothers in the Navy, in the Pacific during WWll. There safe return home after the war was an answer to many prayers. I vividly recall the joy at hearing of the atomic bomb, the ending of the war, and the many lives saved, both American and Japanese. A conventional invasion of the Japanese homeland would have been horrific. The Japanese people would have resisted to the last, resulting in huge looses of life on both sides.Anyone who questions the use of the bomb would not have been alive at that time , and therefore wouldn't be able to have experienced the mood of our people after many years of living with the war and all its casualties. Virtually everyone had friends and/or family serving in the military somewhere in the world.
I myself served during the Viet Nam war, though not in a combat situation. I did however have two close friends killed there, and have traced their names from the wall in D.C.
I have also toured the death camps at Auschwitz and Birkenau in Poland. I have no sympathy for anyone who questions the legitimacy or selflessness of our involvement in that war.

Also, the title was changed because it didn't fit on the subject line of the ALOU.


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News from the World of Military and Veterans Issues. Iraq and A-Stan in parenthesis reflects that the author is currently deployed to that theater.