The Four Reasons I Never Respond to Emails about Veterans Today

 
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Rusty Who are you going to believe? Veterans Today, or your lying eyes? Every now and again someone sends me an irate email citing to Veterans Today and asking me to comment.  I even had some emails occasionally from authors over there asking me questions.  I refuse to answer their questions, and when I get an email asking me to comment on something they write, I kindly but forcefully refuse to do so.  There are four main reasons for that, none of which has anything to do with politics.  Because lately they have been engaging in some sort of vendetta with The American Legion, I thought I would lay out the case here why I refuse to discuss them, so that any further emails either from or about Veterans Today I will respond with a link to this post.  I tried posting comments there to correct the record, but it simply does no good.  Without further ado, this is why I don't respond to them: 1) 9-11 and other Conspiracy Theories. Most rational folks by now have accepted that on September 11, 2001, 19 hijackers took control of 4 airplanes and crashed them into the World Trade Center, the Pentagon and into a field in Shanksville, Pennsylvania. I mean after all, UBL has indeed taken credit for this act of terrorism. Nonetheless, fringe groups persist in believing it was somehow a grand conspiracy involving controlled demolitions, remote controlled airplanes and possibly Elvis. I'm not a structural engineer (like Rosie O'Donnell) however, I am capable of reading them. Presumably you are too, so you can start here, with Popular Mechanics which addressed it.
Healthy skepticism, it seems, has curdled into paranoia. Wild conspiracy tales are peddled daily on the Internet, talk radio and in other media. Blurry photos, quotes taken out of context and sketchy eyewitness accounts have inspired a slew of elaborate theories: The Pentagon was struck by a missile; the World Trade Center was razed by demolition-style bombs; Flight 93 was shot down by a mysterious white jet. As outlandish as these claims may sound, they are increasingly accepted abroad and among extremists here in the United States. To investigate 16 of the most prevalent claims made by conspiracy theorists, POPULAR MECHANICS assembled a team of nine researchers and reporters who, together with PM editors, consulted more than 70 professionals in fields that form the core content of this magazine, including aviation, engineering and the military.
If you want a somewhat not safe for work/language warning but humorous look at it, you can't do better than the great Penn & Teller: So, what is the take of Veterans Today?
If it has been difficult for American leaders to influence the country’s foreign policy since the military-industrial complex wrested control from the state office after the Second World War, it has proven impossible to do so since the US sealed its Faustian bargain with Israel on 9/11. The US Empire is damned if it does cut the flow of money and arms to Israel and damned if it doesn’t. - Niall Bradley
REAL AIRCRAFT, UNLIKE 9/11, CRASHES KILLING POLISH PRESIDENT I was fortunate enough to have a friend who was an air crash investigator. I had seen photos of real plane crashes and knew the 9/11 photographs were outlandish. - Gordon Duff
Now, I could go on and on with quotes from the site about 9-11, but those are just from the last 3 days. You get the idea. 9-11, just like everything else that has happened in the past 50 years to the detriment of the US and the world, is nothing short of the fauilt of an international cabal of Jews, which is my second reason for never replying to VT nonsense. 2) Anti-semitism: Jews, Jews, everywhere the Jews. I honestly check out VT everyday for a little levity. I mean literally, these guys have never seen anything that they somehow could not trace back to the Mossad. US Troop held captive in Afghanistan? How can we tie that one to Isreal? I know!
Yesterday, a very odd video of PFC Robert Bergdahl was released to the media. It was said to have been “found” on the internet by SITE Intelligence, misidentified as a “Washington” group. “SITE Intelligence” has long been tied to Israeli intelligence, the Mossad, and has been the source of many questionable items including bizarre Osama bin Laden tapes of all kinds. With, literally tens of thousands of of American intelligence officers in 14 agencies scanning the internet, some using the most sophisticated equipment known to man, equipment that can find a single word in Arabic on an email from Sudan, the idea that SITE Intelligence, Rita Katz, simply stumbles on such things is a farce. - Gordon Duff
How about the alleged break-in at Senator Landrieu's office by James O'Keefe, the guy who became famous for his video's about ACORN?
Those arrested had worked for “journalist” Andrew Beitbart, known Israeli Supporter and prominent voice of powerful Israeli advocate Rupert Murdoch thru his Fox News network and Wall Street Journal. Breitbart is linked to the neo-con controlled Towhall.com and Drudge.com, known for their consistently anti-administration views. Breitbart denies that any of those arrested, though closely associated with him, were acting directly under his orders when the espionage occurred. - Gordon Duff.
But is it only Gordon Duff?
The history of Israel as a geopolitical fraud will fill entire libraries as those defrauded marvel at how so few deceived so many for so long. Those duped include many naive Jews who—even now—identify their interests with this extremist enclave. Israeli leaders are wrong to worry about “de-legitimization.” They are right to fear that a long-deceived public is fast realizing that Israel’s founding was key to an ongoing deception. The Invention of the Jewish People did not begin with Shlomo Sand’s 2009 bestseller by that title. There was no Exile says this Jewish scholar. Nor was there an Exodus. So how could there be a Return, the core premise of Israeli statehood? - Jeff Gates
"I'm tired of reading, do you have any pictures?" Glad you asked Blogger Strawman: Jewish Conspiracy How about the commenters at that site? I mean, they must see through this, right?
It always makes me sick to see otherwise seemingly rational people effectively strengthening the single biggest factor for the failure of the international community to stop the ongoing ethnic cleansing and – as far as Gaza is concerned – genocide, as well as the systematic apartheid policies of the Jews-only state. I’m talking about the blunder of validating the Judeo-Bolshevik narrative of the so-called Holocaust, the Jewish Wunderwaffe (miracle weapon). Apart from the obvious fact that a law enforced “truth” that cannot be questionned without risking being imprisoned in more than a dozen countries is most likely not true at all, the blind fervor with which most Westerners are brainwashed to believe in that nonsensical narrative makes it virtually impossible to criticise Jews without being accused of hating Jews. - Andrew Winkler.
I could go on, but you get the idea. The Holocaust never happened, and the Jewish state is responsible for just about everything that goes on. "Facts" are malleable... 3) Inaccuracies and slander against the troops. The other day I discussed the Wiki-leaks video. In a must read post yesterday, my friend Rusty Shackleford of My Pet Jawa totally destroys the narrative with the actual pictures from the video showing RPGs and AK-47's. Again, THIS IS A MUST READ. In case you would rather watch a video, I give you this outstanding piece: So, what is the take of Veterans Today? As veterans they must be supporting the troops that were maligned, right?
Kablam! In one fell swoop, we learn the Army has been lying all the time, murdering reporters, gunning down children and lying thru their teeth. Followup stories seen everywhere now claim this was done every day. Then we hear that the Special Forces use their knives to dig bullets out of bodies. When you think of an 5.56mm rifle ammunition of 5.7 mm pistol ammunition, all designed to penetrate body armor, either capable of passing through a human body with little reduction in muzzle velocity having to be dug out of a poor innocent Muslim woman with one of those huge butcher knives that the Special Forces carry, I have a bad moment. I begin to feel the pressure of a myth coming on, a story, a legend, perhaps even a movie script. I think Israel. - Gordon Duff
OK, so Gordon Duff predictably feels that way, but not the rest of the staff there, right?
The next time CNN’s Wolf Blitzer boasts about George W. Bush’s “successful surge” in Iraq or Newsweek hails “Victory at Last,” you should think of the video released by Wikileaks.org this week showing the killing of a group of Iraqi men, including two Reuters newsmen, as they walked nonchalantly through the streets of Baghdad. Not only did a U.S. military helicopter gunship mow them down amid macho jokes and chuckling – after mistaking a couple of cameras for weapons – but the American attackers then blew away several Iraqis who arrived in a van and tried to take one of the wounded newsmen to a hospital. Two children in the van were badly wounded...Bush turned some U.S. soldiers into wanton murderers who had wide latitude to kill Iraqi “military-age males” or MAMS. - Bob Higgins
Anyone else want to pile on and slander the troops?
WikiLeaks has released a classified US military video depicting the indiscriminate slaying of over a dozen people in the Iraqi suburb of New Baghdad — including two Reuters news staff. Reuters has been trying to obtain the video through the Freedom of Information Act, without success since the time of the attack. The video, shot from an Apache helicopter gun-site, clearly shows the unprovoked slaying of a wounded Reuters employee and his rescuers. Two young children involved in the rescue were also seriously wounded. - Brig Asif Haroon Raja.
Now, go back and read the report from My Pet Jawa and watch the video again. Also take a look at the photo evidence. Just by way of example on the differences, here is the picture Rusty has up of the RPG from the video, followed by a picture Gordon Duff has up, of an RPG 29. Bear in mind that no one ever said that the insurgents were carrying an RPG 29, and that you can read the full military report here which states that an RPG was in fact found at the location. Bear in mind that the Insurgents use an RPG-7, and not the bulky and unwieldy RPG-29. Rusty Duff RPG So, who you going to believe? Duff et al? Or your lying eyes? 4) Inaccuracies and slander against Veterans Service Organizations. On the list of BAD VSO's over at Veterans Today: VFW The American Legion On the list of Good VSO's: Iraq Veterans Against the War Veterans for Common Sense. I'm going to save the attacks on the VSO's for another day. But just as a reminder about IVAW and VCS, we first encountered VCS the day of the Fort Hood Shootings, when before any evidence had surfaced at all, VCS Executive Director Paul Sullivan decided to blame the military itself for the shooting, and ascribe it to PTSD and the need for more mental health counselors. Not that you need a reminder, of course, but it was a mental health counselor who is alleged to have done the shooting. Anyway, said Mr. Sullivan as the smoke still clung in the air at the SRP:
“I’m very upset. I’m at the point of tears,” said Paul Sullivan, executive director of Veterans for Common Sense, who lives in Austin. “We warned the military about this. We warned the military about the need to increase the number of mental health care providers. We warned the military about lowering recruiting standards, about the medical exams for soldiers coming back from the war and needing mental health care and brain injury exams.” “We have been working tirelessly to try to prevent this from happening,” he said. “This is so horrible. This is a tragedy.”
And IVAW? Well, a picture tells a thousand words as they say, so here is their designated spokesman at a rally a few weeks ago in Lafayette Park: Matthis Like I said, I will have more on this last reason at a later date, but I wanted to explain to any who might care why I refuse to respond to email entreaties to cover something that VT is covering. Do they get some stuff right? Certainly, but I try to make it a habit to avoid folks who slander the troops, slander my employer, blame everything on Isreal, and think that 9-11 was an inside job. That is simply a bridge too far for me.
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nearly 50% of the people in these "vets against the war" groups are flat-out fakes, while nearly 80% left the military (or removed) in a dishonorable fashion, which tells us everything we need to know

[...] a great post that tears the mask off of leftist america haters The Four Reasons I Never Respond to Emails about Veterans Today [...]

Gordon Duff, former USMC S-3 clerk who claims to be a "100% combat disabled vet"(with no Purple Heart Medal on his DD-214)runs Veterans Today and frankly, is a Moonbat. That site is conspiracy after conspiracy

Vehemently anti American(unless its Gordos version of America)

Gordo said the Marjah Operation in Afghanistan was a Fraud as he had never heard of the town before so DoD/NATO must be lying.

Ive got aboslutely no respect for veterans against the war, not becuase they're against the war, thier intitled to thier opinion, but becuase they inevitably turn out to be fronts for malicious leftist hate america first and israel second groups. and often then not are not actually run by veterans and many times run by FAUX veterans sporting Faux PTSD becuase of all the "baby killing" they did while "overseas"

MOTHAX,

RE: my comment above...

I agree completely with you. I should have been more expressive of that in my post.

Respects,

I'd comment about my true feelings, but this site has rules.

I believe that computer programmers have always had the right acronym to describe this sort of slap-dash "journalism" GIGO-Garbage In Garbage Out. The Internet is a big place, there's always going to be idiocy when you cast a net that broadly. Luckily for the sane and rational, it's a wide enough frontier to steer well clear of the insanity.

my sister is a computer programmer and she earns lots of buxx from it..'

Over 1,300 professional engineers, physicists, chemists, demolition experts, digital media experts, dozens of former top US intelligence and diplomatic senior officials, an airline pilots' assn, etc., have stated unequivocally that WTC-7, which came down at freefall speed at 5:20 p.m. into its own footprint, 20 min after its announced collapse on CNN and BBC, through the use of controlled demolition charges. Hundreds, yes, hundreds of eyewitnesses have testified that they heard a series of explosions, like rolling thunder rack the lower floors of the three buildings. Molten steel, which does not melt at the temperatures of aviation fuel fires, is seen in videos pouring out of the sides of the buildings 20 and 30 floors ahead of the collapse. Scientists--not conspiracy wingnuts--have isolated residual flecks of nano-thermitic charges in the dust from WTC-7, a substance that otherwise has not one chance in a billion of being there except as the residue of controlled demolition. Dr. Alan Sabrosky, a former Marine officer, Jew, and former director of studies for five years at the US Army War College has said that military intelligence has proof that Israel did 911. Period. Not only that they knew in advance that the event would take place. The "Five Dancing Israelis," arrested by the FBI after eyewitnesses observed them setting up cameras before the first plane struck, who later turned out to be Mossad agents, who were celebrating and dancing while the carnage unfolded, later said on Israeli TV they were there "to record the event." Just who do you think you're kidding by suggesting all these experts are psychotic conspiracy theorists allied with Veterans Today or Elvis sighters, and that the circumstantial evidence does not warrant a complete re-investigation?

Hmmmm. 'Over 1300 engineers, physicists.... have stated unequivocally’ - since when do top US intelligence and diplomatic senior officials, and an airline pilots association know anything about building collapse? Are all of these engineers & physicists knowledgeable about buildings, building materials, combustion, etc? 'Hundreds of eyewitnesses heard explosions' - as opposed to the impact of floors pancaking together as in a collapse? Can these eyewitnesses really tell the difference? Historians & law enforcement will tell you that eyewitnesses aren't necessarily 100% reliable. 'Molten steel.....pouring out of the sides' How is this substance identified as molten steel if it it doesn't melt at the temperatures of aviation fuel combustion? Could it be other material? Is the temperature of the fire solely a function of the aviation fuel? If you would like a critical analysis done by an independent authority go to National Geographic and watch their program on 9/11 science and conspiracy.

Thanks for sharing! Really great:)

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Wow, great site!

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News from the World of Military and Veterans Issues. Iraq and A-Stan in parenthesis reflects that the author is currently deployed to that theater.